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	<title>Comments on: Cisco&#8217;s VPN Client is crap&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://bergs.biz/blog/2008/07/24/ciscos-vpn-client-is-crap/#comment-24842</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@yuval attar: I would definitely not agree with your conclusion &lt;em&gt;"Mac OS X sucks."&lt;/em&gt;

Mac OS X, as &lt;em&gt;every&lt;/em&gt; other non-trivial piece of software, has bugs. &lt;em&gt;Period. &lt;/em&gt;That's basically a law of nature. You may like Mac OS X or not, but that's a totally different thing.

I'm not a Mac OS X addict or "nerd." In fact I'm using Windows since almost  20 years, and Mac OS X only since 1.5 years, and I still think I can do lots of things faster under Windoze, compared to Mac OS X. Anyway, I must say that I really like Mac OS X. It's not perfect (but there isn't any OS that's "perfect"), but compared to Windoze it also has a lot of advantages for me (especially for work), being Unix-based.

Coming back to the Cisco problem: I was definitely a problem with Mac OS X, as it turned out later, because with some Leopard update it disappeared, I've never seen it since.

OTOH, now with Snow Leopard, I don't even &lt;em&gt;have &lt;/em&gt;to install Cisco's client, because the IPSec client built into Snow Leopard has full support for Cisco's &lt;code&gt;XAuth&lt;/code&gt; extension for IPSec. So I can even use it to log onto our corporate networks, using RSA SecurID tokens. I've only started using Snow Leopard's client last week, so I've only used it a couple of times, but in general it seems to work well.

If you still have problems with the Cisco client and are already using Snow Leopard by chance, give the built-in IPSec client a try! It may solve your problems...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@yuval attar: I would definitely not agree with your conclusion <em>&#8220;Mac OS X sucks.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Mac OS X, as <em>every</em> other non-trivial piece of software, has bugs. <em>Period. </em>That&#8217;s basically a law of nature. You may like Mac OS X or not, but that&#8217;s a totally different thing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a Mac OS X addict or &#8220;nerd.&#8221; In fact I&#8217;m using Windows since almost  20 years, and Mac OS X only since 1.5 years, and I still think I can do lots of things faster under Windoze, compared to Mac OS X. Anyway, I must say that I really like Mac OS X. It&#8217;s not perfect (but there isn&#8217;t any OS that&#8217;s &#8220;perfect&#8221;), but compared to Windoze it also has a lot of advantages for me (especially for work), being Unix-based.</p>
<p>Coming back to the Cisco problem: I was definitely a problem with Mac OS X, as it turned out later, because with some Leopard update it disappeared, I&#8217;ve never seen it since.</p>
<p>OTOH, now with Snow Leopard, I don&#8217;t even <em>have </em>to install Cisco&#8217;s client, because the IPSec client built into Snow Leopard has full support for Cisco&#8217;s <code>XAuth</code> extension for IPSec. So I can even use it to log onto our corporate networks, using RSA SecurID tokens. I&#8217;ve only started using Snow Leopard&#8217;s client last week, so I&#8217;ve only used it a couple of times, but in general it seems to work well.</p>
<p>If you still have problems with the Cisco client and are already using Snow Leopard by chance, give the built-in IPSec client a try! It may solve your problems&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: yuval attar</title>
		<link>http://bergs.biz/blog/2008/07/24/ciscos-vpn-client-is-crap/#comment-24837</link>
		<dc:creator>yuval attar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the problem is with mac osx .
when building a new profile the cisco vpn is working fine but the minute you reboot your machine the OSX does something to it.
delete some files. to recover the vpn you could build  a new profile and logon to it and you'll see that the vpn is working just great.
by the way the Microsoft Entourage also didn't work until i build the profile from scratch. but still after reboot it happen again.


in short mac osx sucks .
it's my first try on it and i hate already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the problem is with mac osx .<br />
when building a new profile the cisco vpn is working fine but the minute you reboot your machine the OSX does something to it.<br />
delete some files. to recover the vpn you could build  a new profile and logon to it and you&#8217;ll see that the vpn is working just great.<br />
by the way the Microsoft Entourage also didn&#8217;t work until i build the profile from scratch. but still after reboot it happen again.</p>
<p>in short mac osx sucks .<br />
it&#8217;s my first try on it and i hate already.</p>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://bergs.biz/blog/2008/07/24/ciscos-vpn-client-is-crap/#comment-24426</link>
		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 13:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pierre Divenyi: First, Happy New Year to you as well!

Unfortunately I don't have any advice for you besides restarting the VPN subsystem. That always did the trick for me -- fortunately the problem disappeared some day (maybe after some Mac OS X 10.5.x update?).

I'm now running Snow Leopard and haven't seen the problem so far on this platform. &lt;code&gt;*keeps fingers crossed*&lt;/code&gt;

I hope that you will find a solution soon. Rebooting is the last thing you would like to do in such cases...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pierre Divenyi: First, Happy New Year to you as well!</p>
<p>Unfortunately I don&#8217;t have any advice for you besides restarting the VPN subsystem. That always did the trick for me &#8212; fortunately the problem disappeared some day (maybe after some Mac OS X 10.5.x update?).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m now running Snow Leopard and haven&#8217;t seen the problem so far on this platform. <code>*keeps fingers crossed*</code></p>
<p>I hope that you will find a solution soon. Rebooting is the last thing you would like to do in such cases&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Divenyi</title>
		<link>http://bergs.biz/blog/2008/07/24/ciscos-vpn-client-is-crap/#comment-24414</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Divenyi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I tried everything without success.
1. I uninstalled  CiscoVPN and reinstalled it. No luck.
2. I manually deleted all files having to do with CiscoVPN and reinstalled it. No luck.
3. The solution that worked for you still results in Error 51.

At this point, I have run out of ideas. If you have any, please let me know.

Happy 2010,

-Pierre</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I tried everything without success.<br />
1. I uninstalled  CiscoVPN and reinstalled it. No luck.<br />
2. I manually deleted all files having to do with CiscoVPN and reinstalled it. No luck.<br />
3. The solution that worked for you still results in Error 51.</p>
<p>At this point, I have run out of ideas. If you have any, please let me know.</p>
<p>Happy 2010,</p>
<p>-Pierre</p>
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